Post by Wyldcomfort on Feb 29, 2008 8:27:03 GMT -5
Hello all, I have been saving several announcements to combine into one so please bear with me. Parks has a survey they are requesting we complete and get out to as many people as possible regarding the hands on training portion.....(see below). NOMAC is having a get together in The Dalles on Sunday March 2nd at 2:00p.m. (contact Stan at 541-993-2180 or 541-395-2217 for more info). There is an NOHVCC/ORC meeting at the PGE's Facility in Salem on March 9th at 11 AM (contact Randy Nicolay for more info). On Saturday March 1, from noon to 3 pm Forest Service Open House at the Phoenix Inn in Albany, right off of I-5, to provide input on the travel management plan for the Siusilaw. (Please please please take the time to stop in if only for a minute or two). Last but not least I would like to give you an update on what we have all been working on lately and get some feedback from the group. First off I think we need to push the Forest Service a bit on getting the foredunes taken care of. At the very least the roads should be leveled so the water can flow out and the wind can blow a little in. These foredunes prohibit the water from draining and are creating wetlands and forests, consuming a national treasure - our dunes. It is all because of the invasive non-native European beachgrass and it is next to impossible to irradicate. Ironically OHV use helps significantly!
The Northern boys had a fun weekend trying out the new snow motorcycle.....it actually has a track on back and a type of ski on the front and yes it does wheelies. They are very cool. Speaking of very cool.....Razors and side bys are really hot these days. A few concerns we have been cussing and discussing is access to Forest Lands. Like trucks and jeeps they are considered a class 2 BUT it appears the mapping includes only street-legal Class 2 so where does it leave these vehicles if they can't share the class 1 or 3 trails or the Class 2 road systems?? We also are concerned about the current laws regarding child safety with Class 2 vehicles. This is where we need input. My personal feeling is with enclosed hard body vehicles (trucks, etc) if there is an on highway carseat requirement, it should extend to public lands off-highway. The only law we have found thus far is that a seatbelt must be available. My personal opinion on open vehicles (rails, pilots, side-bys and razors) kids should have helmets on. So, before we go any further with this- we need input (good, bad, and ugly but honest and well thought out!!) We have spent years behind the eight ball - I would much rather be on top of these issues than be surprised by them. My opinion is just that and your input and opinion is what matters most to me. Regardless of the defined classes of vehicles - we are all OHVers who need to look out for one another while still protecting this sport and our kids. I also need your help. Frankly I am getting a bit worn out and with the recent addition of two mustang babies adopted from the BLM, my daughter and I will be a bit preoccupied for awhile. I am not throwing in the towell but rather evening out my life so I am not totally consumed by all this as i have been for the past year. Many hands make light work so please do what you can. Thank you once again!! Lindy
(Parks survey below)
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Oregon Parks & Recreation Department needs your Class I ATVinput >
Dear ATV Rider*s Club Representative,>>
Oregon Parks & Recreation Department (OPRD) is developing a plan in response to the future requirement for all Class I ATV youth riders under sixteen to have "hands-on" training. Although we don't know when it will become mandatory, it will be a huge undertaking which will require us to have a good understanding of your members* needs.
All of our planning hinges on one very large item:
What is the demand? How many of Oregon*s young riders will be attending a hands-on course during the first year of requirement? How many in the second year? And so on. The answer to this will help us be sure that there are enough> instructors on the ground to meet that demand.
There are several sources of data, all of which give different results. So, we want to ask your members a few simple questions in the form of the attached survey in order to get some ground truth on the issue. We*re asking you to get these out to your members and get the results back to us before the end of March (with the number of class I instructors your club has) at:
Oregon Parks and Recreation Department
Attn: John Lane, ATV Safety & Education Coordinator
725 summer St. NE, Suite C
Salem, OR 97301-1266
We deeply appreciate your assistance on this very important issue. It*s vital that we be prepared for changes in order to allow riders and their families to do the activity they enjoy so much. In the event our email list is inaccurate, and you got this by accident, please help us direct this to the right person.>> Please feel free to give me a call at any time regarding this, or any other matter.
John M. Lane
Oregon Parks & Recreation Department
ATV Safety & Education Coordinator
W:503-986-0585
C:503-559-2002
F:503-986-0793
SURVEY - please distribute to your club members and have them return them to John.Lane@state.or.us Within the next several years it could become mandatory for all Oregon Class I (quad) ATV riders under the age of 16 to have hands-on training from a certified ATV instructor. The Oregon Parks & Recreation Department is taking steps to make sure riders have the resources they need to meet these requirements.
To assist us, please answer the following questions:
( ) What state and county do you live in?
( Y N ) Have you or will you ever ride a class I ATV (quad or 3-wheeler) on Oregon public lands?
( ) If yes, what riding areas do you or will you use?
( Y N ) Have your children attended a hands-on class I ATV Training Class?
How many of your children (if any) drive, or will drive, a Class I (quad) on Oregon public lands?
( ) 0 - 8 years old
( ) 9 - 12 years old
( ) 13 - 15 years old
( ) 16 and over
How often do your children ride on Oregon public lands?( ) Never( ) Rarely (less than yearly)
( ) Sometimes (once or twice per year)
( ) Frequently (one or more times per month)
( ) All the time (at least once a week)
When training becomes mandatory in Oregon for those under 16, how soon would they get trained?
( ) Never
( ) First year
( ) Second year
( ) 3 to 5 years
( ) After that Do you have any comments?
( Y N ) Are you currently a certified trainer?
(Y N) Would you be willing to become a certified trainer?? Y N
If yes, contact info._________________________________________________________
The Northern boys had a fun weekend trying out the new snow motorcycle.....it actually has a track on back and a type of ski on the front and yes it does wheelies. They are very cool. Speaking of very cool.....Razors and side bys are really hot these days. A few concerns we have been cussing and discussing is access to Forest Lands. Like trucks and jeeps they are considered a class 2 BUT it appears the mapping includes only street-legal Class 2 so where does it leave these vehicles if they can't share the class 1 or 3 trails or the Class 2 road systems?? We also are concerned about the current laws regarding child safety with Class 2 vehicles. This is where we need input. My personal feeling is with enclosed hard body vehicles (trucks, etc) if there is an on highway carseat requirement, it should extend to public lands off-highway. The only law we have found thus far is that a seatbelt must be available. My personal opinion on open vehicles (rails, pilots, side-bys and razors) kids should have helmets on. So, before we go any further with this- we need input (good, bad, and ugly but honest and well thought out!!) We have spent years behind the eight ball - I would much rather be on top of these issues than be surprised by them. My opinion is just that and your input and opinion is what matters most to me. Regardless of the defined classes of vehicles - we are all OHVers who need to look out for one another while still protecting this sport and our kids. I also need your help. Frankly I am getting a bit worn out and with the recent addition of two mustang babies adopted from the BLM, my daughter and I will be a bit preoccupied for awhile. I am not throwing in the towell but rather evening out my life so I am not totally consumed by all this as i have been for the past year. Many hands make light work so please do what you can. Thank you once again!! Lindy
(Parks survey below)
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Oregon Parks & Recreation Department needs your Class I ATVinput >
Dear ATV Rider*s Club Representative,>>
Oregon Parks & Recreation Department (OPRD) is developing a plan in response to the future requirement for all Class I ATV youth riders under sixteen to have "hands-on" training. Although we don't know when it will become mandatory, it will be a huge undertaking which will require us to have a good understanding of your members* needs.
All of our planning hinges on one very large item:
What is the demand? How many of Oregon*s young riders will be attending a hands-on course during the first year of requirement? How many in the second year? And so on. The answer to this will help us be sure that there are enough> instructors on the ground to meet that demand.
There are several sources of data, all of which give different results. So, we want to ask your members a few simple questions in the form of the attached survey in order to get some ground truth on the issue. We*re asking you to get these out to your members and get the results back to us before the end of March (with the number of class I instructors your club has) at:
Oregon Parks and Recreation Department
Attn: John Lane, ATV Safety & Education Coordinator
725 summer St. NE, Suite C
Salem, OR 97301-1266
We deeply appreciate your assistance on this very important issue. It*s vital that we be prepared for changes in order to allow riders and their families to do the activity they enjoy so much. In the event our email list is inaccurate, and you got this by accident, please help us direct this to the right person.>> Please feel free to give me a call at any time regarding this, or any other matter.
John M. Lane
Oregon Parks & Recreation Department
ATV Safety & Education Coordinator
W:503-986-0585
C:503-559-2002
F:503-986-0793
SURVEY - please distribute to your club members and have them return them to John.Lane@state.or.us Within the next several years it could become mandatory for all Oregon Class I (quad) ATV riders under the age of 16 to have hands-on training from a certified ATV instructor. The Oregon Parks & Recreation Department is taking steps to make sure riders have the resources they need to meet these requirements.
To assist us, please answer the following questions:
( ) What state and county do you live in?
( Y N ) Have you or will you ever ride a class I ATV (quad or 3-wheeler) on Oregon public lands?
( ) If yes, what riding areas do you or will you use?
( Y N ) Have your children attended a hands-on class I ATV Training Class?
How many of your children (if any) drive, or will drive, a Class I (quad) on Oregon public lands?
( ) 0 - 8 years old
( ) 9 - 12 years old
( ) 13 - 15 years old
( ) 16 and over
How often do your children ride on Oregon public lands?( ) Never( ) Rarely (less than yearly)
( ) Sometimes (once or twice per year)
( ) Frequently (one or more times per month)
( ) All the time (at least once a week)
When training becomes mandatory in Oregon for those under 16, how soon would they get trained?
( ) Never
( ) First year
( ) Second year
( ) 3 to 5 years
( ) After that Do you have any comments?
( Y N ) Are you currently a certified trainer?
(Y N) Would you be willing to become a certified trainer?? Y N
If yes, contact info._________________________________________________________